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But the biblical data that is available has to be dealt with, and Carson does as good a job as anyone of putting it all together. As a leading New Testament scholar who is at home in the worlds of theology, biblical studies and pastoral work, Carson brings the required skills to pull off discussing such an important topic as this. If you have only room for a few books on the problem of suffering and evil, this book should be at the top of your list.
View all posts by Bill Muehlenberg. John Angelico. Ah yes, that is why I said Carson would make it into my top ten. As to the two authors, Carson deals with the biblical material much more than Lewis does. They are both theological in their assessments, but Lewis might be more philosophical as well. Your email address will not be published. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Notify me of new posts by email. Baker, Available in Australia at Koorong Books. How Long, O Lord?
Author He provides one of the better treatments of the subject, offering a balanced and judicious understanding of what the biblical material has to say about these topics. To reduce the problem to a philosophical one is to limit this mystery. Carson does not adequately address the objections of non-believers, but he never set out to. Near the end of the book, Carson briefly deals with the doctrine of compatibilism. In a field where authors can quickly find themselves speaking to fellow academic deans and professional debaters, Carson has provided a book that is accessible to the average Christian.
This turns out to be a good thing, because the average Christian needs as much encouragement to deal with the problem of evil and suffering as the philosophy student does. This approach makes How Long, O Lord? The journey Carson takes his reader on is a refreshing and challenging one. For the theological student, you will even be treated to interesting and capable treatments of the doctrines of divine impassibility and the doctrine of compatibilism, among other things.
A bonus section in the appendix on the subject of AIDS is both enlightening and sobering. Overall, Carson provides enough substance to make his book deep, but also enough practical insights to make it accessible. He has done a fine job and his book is worthy of contemplation by anyone who will one day face suffering.
Refresh and try again. How Long, O Lord? Quotes Showing of 9. For the Christian, it is God's Word, and it is not negotiable. What answers we find may not be exhaustive, but they give us the God who is there, and who gives us some measure of comfort and assurance. The alternative is a god we manufacture, and who provides no comfort at all. There are some helpful insights and valuable discussion in this book, but I found it tough going.
The most helpful ideas I have taken away are an area Don calls compatabilism - where God's sovereignty and our responsibility live side by side.
I also found his discussion helpful that we all develop grids through which we filter life and new teaching - and our grids needs to be robust enough to handle tough issues, but flexible enough to be changed to accommodate new, true teaching.
The latter three There are some helpful insights and valuable discussion in this book, but I found it tough going. The latter three chapters were somewhat easier going as he brought together the material from the first ten chapters. His final chapter contained some pastoral guidelines whch I also found helpful and practical. Mar 18, Aaron Carlberg rated it it was amazing.
This is Carson's classic work on suffering and meaning in the world. Sometimes it is good to go back through older classics like this and see the deep theological truth and men who love God, have been through a lot years, and how they view suffering. You may not agree with everything Carson says, but you will love his genuineness of being willing to speak theologically into situations WITH compassion where many times we would rather simply rely on feelings.
Jan 23, Martha Davenport rated it it was amazing. May 05, Bobby Bonser added it. Reading anything by Carson is like trying to eat an elephant. Reading is slow-going and requires much digestion before taking another bite. However, the rich truths that are unpacking and expounded upon biblically are very rewarding and worth working through. He deals with what many would call the Achilles Heel of Christianity and does so with clarity, biblical exposition, and logic that is a sharp as a knife.
I recommend this book to any believer wishing to dive deeper into questions on human s Reading anything by Carson is like trying to eat an elephant. I recommend this book to any believer wishing to dive deeper into questions on human suffering, pain, and evil. May 14, Mike rated it it was amazing. As ironic as it sounds, this book is a breath of fresh air in a world where Christianity is becoming increasingly irrelevant.
By addressing the real issues of suffering, Carson offers a strong rebuttal to the prosperity and healing movements that have no category for God's sovereignty in the face of suffering.
Yet, by addressing both the reality of suffering and the sovereignty of God, this book leaves the reader with hope rather than a delusion in the midst of a broken world. Jun 07, Matthew Prydden rated it really liked it Shelves: general-theology. Carson states that this isn't really a book for those struggling in the midst of suffering although it may be of help to some certainly , but more of a book before the time, to help give you a good grounding in what the Bible does say on key matters relating to suffering and evil - and that's an assessment I'd certainly agree with and this book has the potential be very helpful when used in that way.
Jan 13, Jan Bochat rated it it was amazing. Terrific read! Each chapter has useful reflection questions that cause you to pause and apply to yourself. Worth a read for everyone to prepare us for suffering that we will inevitably face. Jun 16, Michael Rachel rated it liked it. I found the first half of this book to be insightful, riveting, encouraging, warm, pastoral--only positive things. The second half of the book seemed to lose the affectionate nature of the first half and the book seemed to fizzle out at the end.
The book almost read as though Carson got his major reflections out in the first half, but needed to address some other issues that he didn't seem to have reflected on as deeply. Nevertheless, I'd recommend this book to people.
May 25, Joshua Reichard rated it really liked it. I was encouraged by the time Carson spent thinking and discussing the hard facts and reality of evil and suffering in the world. It is nice to see people think through the hard and mysterious truths of the Bible. Nov 05, Brittany rated it it was amazing. This is an excellent and important read for Christians on suffering and evil. Carson is quick to point out that this book is not necessarily written for unbelievers and that it is also not necessarily written for those who are currently going through a time of pain or suffering.
This book was recommended to me with that in mind and so I had waited until my season of pain was over, and I agree that that is appropriate caution to take. Another important takeaway is that Carson does not claim to ha This is an excellent and important read for Christians on suffering and evil. Another important takeaway is that Carson does not claim to have all the answers.
There are things that the Bible doesn't explain to us- i. So yes, this book will not answer every single one of your questions or objections to your liking, but living in faith and trusting God with those things is not a bad place to be.
Carson's goal in this book is to provide Christians with foundational thoughts on evil and suffering so that when we come to times of pain that we can remember these truths and filter our circumstances in light of what the Bible teaches and in light of who God is.
If we have a right view of God and if we always see suffering in light of the cross, then we can suffer well. It doesn't mean we won't feel pain or that we won't grieve, but we can't get those two things wrong. He rightly discusses the different kinds of suffering- not all suffering is equal and is not all effects of the same cause. It is necessary to view each person's suffering on a case by case instead of making any sort of sweeping judgments on certain types of suffering- rape, abuse, illness, war, poverty, natural disasters, hell, etc.
And in every scenario he addresses, he provides ample Biblical support. As others have commented in reviews, his chapter on Job is especially helpful- Job has done nothing to 'deserve' the suffering he endures, and in the end God does not give him the 'answers' Job is looking for. And that is most commonly where we think we find ourselves in our seasons of pain. Carson's dissection of Job's response, in conjunction with the rest of the book, give us a good point of reference and place to know how we should also respond to God.
I also appreciated his chapter on providence. I have recently done much study on compatibilism and struggling with what to do with the tension of God's sovereignty and human responsibility and feel that Carson does an excellent job of explaining what the Bible teaches- as well as where the mysteries lie. Here are a few of the vast amount of quotes I found helpful: "However hard some things are to understand, it is never helpful to start picking and choosing biblical truths we find congenial, as if the Bible is an open-shelved supermarket where we are at perfect liberty to choose only the chocolate bars.
What answers we find may not be exhaustive, but they give us the God who is there, and who gives us some measure of comfort and assurance. The alternative is a god we manufacture, and who provides no comfort at all.
Whatever comfort we feel is self -delusion, and it will be stripped away at the end when we give an account to the God who has spoken to us, not only in Scripture, but supremely in his Son Jesus Christ.
If we forsake any one of these truths, the significance of the cross is destroyed and we are lost. The result, rather sadly, is a god who is either less than sovereign or less than personal, either incompetent and frustrated or impassive and stoical. The God on whom we rely knows what suffering is all about, not merely in the way that God knows everything, but by experience. If we find it is developing in us a pattern of bitterness, we are in desperate straits.
And one of the first steps to reverse such bitterness is to come before the Lord, broken and confused and hurt as we may be, and read his Word, seek his face, and ask him to provide the comfort that only he can. But really, so much to be gleaned from this book. See more of my reviews at www. Nov 04, Nikki rated it it was amazing. I also appreciated his introduction to and reasoning for Biblical compatibilism. I plan to purchase a hard copy of this for personal reference.
Highly recommended. I was humbled by the realization that I unknowingly put God in a box and my approach to prayer has forever changed. Jun 16, cindy rated it liked it Recommended to cindy by: Christian Counseling and Educational Foundation. Shelves: faith , required-reading , own. An analysis of suffering -- its knowable and unknowable causes, its various forms -- and the Biblical response in the context of God's sovereignty and human moral responsibility.
Thorough and filled with references to scripture. Read for a Christian Counseling and Educational Foundation course. There are no discussion topics on this book yet. Be the first to start one ». Readers also enjoyed. About D. Donald A. He has been at Trinity since Carson came to Trinity from the faculty of Northwest Baptist Theological Seminary in Vancouver, British Columbia, where he also served for two years as academic dean.
He has served as assistant pastor and pastor and has done itinerant ministry in Donald A. He has served as assistant pastor and pastor and has done itinerant ministry in Canada and the United Kingdom.
Carson is an active guest lecturer in academic and church settings around the world. He has written or edited about sixty books.
He is a founding member and currently president of The Gospel Coalition.
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